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Lawrence
2018/09/17
Lawrence
You free tomorrow at 430 pm eastern?
L 05:22:59 am
Lawrence
III make it so
11:17:22 am
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Thanks. Also can you perhaps give me the name and phone number of one or two of
the lawyers you have spoken to regarding action down the line. It would really help
relieve Nancy's anger at the system if we could just talk to a few of them to see what
the issues are.
L 02:07:29 pm
Lawrence
Not yet
02:07:49 pm
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Ok. But we want to be prepared in advance for what may be necessary and for what
may not. So at some point, ok?
L 02:09:01 pin
I am your friend. . lets focus on todays call
02:11:26 pm
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L 02:14:35 pm
I would focus on that silly drawing they put into evidence . Its great example of over
reach
02:18:35 pm
There will be much time for anger. And years to think about retribution. The next
three months are not the time
02:19:12 pm
Lawrence
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I personally never want to be consumed by anger and bitterness. I have been screwed
over on the past and my philosophy has always been that loving well is the best
revenge. But anyway want Nancy to know that we will do something in long run.
Talk later.
L 02:26:41 pm
Beware. On todays call I will say some neg things about your behavior . Its all theatre.
For Justin
02:31:32 pm
Lawrence
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Ok. He thinks we are talking about bill first. I should talk to him for 5 min about that
and then bring you on? should I let him know in advance that we are all going to be
taking about strategy?
L 02:38:30 pm
It should only be about strategy. Bill can wait. Tell him that I am available at 430
eastern and you'd like to c000diatnate strategy, did you send him anything
questioning his bill yet/. Or mention it?
02:39:49 pin
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Lawrence
I had sent him an email saying I had some questions about the bill on Thursday. That is
when he said we should talk on Monday at 430 eastern.
I can send him a note saying that I want to discuss strategy instead and you will be on
the call if you want. My plan was to spend max 30 min on the call. That is $350.
L 03:08:03 pm
For me 10 minutes enough
03:08:35 pm
Most of your calls. Is you talking, and paying to do so
03:08:55 pm
Lawrence
Come to think of it , listening to you should cost you money I stand correted
03:09:17 pm
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Ha! Well some people pay for it.
Anyway how about I tell him that we all will be on the call for 10 min to talk about
strategy and then you can leave the call and we can spend 10 min talking about the
one item on the bill I was going to question.
Or I could tell him we will talk about the bill later.
L 03:10:58 pin
tell him you only have 10 minutes . You will get to the bill later. You appreciate his
advice. Blah blah. Why again do you want to make annoyed the people that you need
on your side.
03:17:22 pm
You wil want to review all the bills at the end. You are going to need him at the
hearing. So why would you put him on notice that you don't want to pay now?!!
03:18:17 pin
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He will pull the same bull shit as. The last time. . do you want to fire me . All the time
was spent ? I dint bill for much that you don't see. Always the same nonsense
03:19:15 pm
Lawrence
I already reduced the bill . etc
03:19:29 pm
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I just had one item I wanted to question. Ever since I had a come to Jesus talk with him
he has been more forthcoming. It is just one item. Not the whole bill. Anyway I can
forget that if you want. Just a $600 item.
03:20:35 pin
I simply can't afford much more without some results. Have eaten into savings and
santal has college next year.
L 03:21:45 pm
Do you see why I have lost my patience five times I have told you the same exact
fucking thing. And at a least five time but almost each time I hear. BUT. 11.
03:21:57 pin
you should have capped his fees. . mentioned them. You gave him work to do that you
could have done better yourself.
03:22:36 pin
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Water under the bridge at this point. What now?
L 03:22:59 pm
This is the rest of your life I have given you the answer , over over over and
over. . and you again say." what now " this is how and why you are here. . you
choose to ignore advice . Dictate your views on what should be as opposed to what
is. it is 90 percent self inflicted wounds. You tell me now waht
03:24:31 pin
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I am going to fill Justin in on events of the last few days before meeting. Letter from
provost and info from committee member. I will let you know how I plan to bring you
in on call in awhile.
L 04:00:57 pm
Just send him. , your explanation is not relevant
04:01:29 pm
Lawrence
Yes.
04:01:45 pin
Ok
04:01:48 pin
Done.
L 04:56:14 pin
S000 o disturbing that call. . I did not know about discussions re his fees.
. sorry. Wow
10:11:58 pm
2018/09/18
Lawrence
Thanks. I feel like I've been screwed twice in this process. At least once by my own
doing. And that makes the whole thing so much worse. I can take being canned. But
paying 2 years of college tuition to help it happen has been the hard part.
02:17:03 am
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Anyway, I am thinking of doing without a lawyer or with a local lawyer for the appeal
part perhaps. The appeal doc plus two addendums do most of what the witnesses
might do and I could call one or two of the faculty involved who weren't really
interviewed by OEI, to talk about the real atmosphere at origins and what really
happened in our meetings (especially Manfred Laubichler) and then stress what I put
at the beginning of the appeal document. Namely not a single faculty post doc or one
of my students or attendees at any of our origins conferences ever filed any
complaints-that as a professor, researcher, and teacher my record at asu is not
tainted.
02:18:01 am
I forgot to tell you that Justin also suggested that if conciliation fails we ask university
why we couldn't have done mediation which is interesting because of course
mediation is one of the allowed options. Justin said he asked the general counsel
about this earlier and she said they basically never do mediation.
L 10:23:18 pm
hes a moron. It says in essence if the university wants to try it it can suggest
it. Thats it
10:24:25 pin
Lawrence
So it is allowed under the regs.
10:24:41 pm
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Yeah I know.
L 10:24:55 pin
Lawrence
Can I call you
10:25:19 pm
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On phone. Will text when done.
L 10:26:12 pin
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2018/09/23
Lawrence
Interesting day. I just went on 23 and me as I have a new dna relative in the list. My
brother Michael. I just discovered he is my half brother!!! Ha! We share only 25% dna,
not 50%. I am boring 100% ashenazi Jew. But mike is a mongrel. Don't know who his
father is. :). Spoke to my mom and she said he was immaculately conceived. :))). Wow.
Then she said he was a test tube baby. I told her they didn't have test tube babies then.
:))). My mother said I am the krauss. I asked what she would tell mike and she said she
would tell him the same thing. ::
Well that is eye opening.
03:05:39 am
Does that make my brother a bastard?
L 03:07:13 am
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