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[00:00:00] Let's talk about your second book. Your
[00:00:02] second book was uh on a different
[00:00:04] subject and why don't you go through
[00:00:05] what that was?
[00:00:06] >> My second book was uh an unlikely
[00:00:09] conservative, the transformation of an
[00:00:12] ex- liberal or how I became the most
[00:00:14] hated Hispanic in America. The subtitle
[00:00:16] was not my choice. Uh my publishers
[00:00:19] picked that. Uh and it really it it stem
[00:00:22] from uh my having failed to become
[00:00:26] Secretary of Labor. I was nominated by
[00:00:29] George W. Bush uh and my nomination
[00:00:32] lasted all of about a week I think uh
[00:00:35] before uh it was discovered that 10
[00:00:38] years earlier I had taken into my home a
[00:00:41] woman who was an illegal immigrant and I
[00:00:44] knew she was an illegal immigrant. Uh I
[00:00:47] was asked by a friend if I could give
[00:00:48] her a place to live. A friend who knew
[00:00:51] that I had taken in Vietnamese and other
[00:00:53] people who um I helped you know try to
[00:00:56] uh to give a helping hand to. And uh
[00:01:00] unfortunately back in those that period
[00:01:03] uh that was enough to derail my
[00:01:05] nomination.
[00:01:06] >> So you nomination you were the first um
[00:01:10] Latina to be nominated to be a cabinet
[00:01:12] secretary.
[00:01:13] >> Correct. but didn't go through because
[00:01:15] of that. And that's uh somewhat similar
[00:01:17] to what happened to Zoe Barrett, I
[00:01:19] guess, to some extent,
[00:01:20] >> right? She actually employed a couple
[00:01:22] and uh didn't pay taxes on them. I
[00:01:25] didn't employ this woman uh but uh and
[00:01:28] she eventually went back to Guatemala
[00:01:30] and came again as a permanent resident.
[00:01:33] >> So, why are you seen as an unpopular
[00:01:36] Hispanic?
[00:01:38] >> Well, I think it all stems from the
[00:01:40] controversy around uh my job at US
[00:01:42] English. the idea of promoting English
[00:01:44] and I think there were people who
[00:01:46] misunderstood and thought that I was
[00:01:48] promoting English only. Uh no, I was
[00:01:51] promoting uh promoting English as uh a
[00:01:54] way to advance yourself to be able to
[00:01:56] move into the middle class. And uh I
[00:01:59] also was a Republican and that was
[00:02:01] thought to be unusual. Turns out it's
[00:02:04] not all that unusual. A third of
[00:02:06] Mexican-Americans actually voted for
[00:02:08] Richard M. Nixon uh in 1972, but there
[00:02:12] wasn't a lot written about that.
[00:02:13] >> Well, he was the first uh Republican
[00:02:15] candidate, I think, to really appeal to
[00:02:18] the Latino or Hispanic uh market.
[00:02:20] >> Absolutely. He had something called the
[00:02:22] Cabinet Committee for uh opportunity for
[00:02:25] Spanish-sp speakaking people.
[00:02:27] >> Okay. So, u your second book comes out
[00:02:29] and it's uh let's say a lot of people
[00:02:32] criticize it because they think you're
[00:02:34] saying we should only learn English if
[00:02:35] you're Hispanic and not learn both
[00:02:37] languages. Is that right? That's right.
[00:02:39] And um you know, I think there were a
[00:02:42] lot of people who didn't think that I
[00:02:43] celebrated my Hispanic heritage, which
[00:02:45] is not accurate. I was very aware of my
[00:02:47] Hispanic uh heritage my entire life and
[00:02:51] very proud of it.
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